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  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    A guy on Jake and Edward:

    Edward -
    When I first watched/read Twilight my first thought was how much it reminded me of Kate & Leopold. As a big fan of Underworld and Blade Trilogies I get a lot of fun vampires in my character list - but Twilight is like none of them. I realized that Stephenie Meyer did not set out to add another tome to the collection of classic vampire stories out there, but to do something very new and very different (note differences between Twi-Vamps and others, sunlight etc.)

    Vampires in Twilight, it occured to me, was actually a way to bring an Edwardian Gentleman (no pun intended) into the 21st century to tell a Austen/Bronte-esque love story.

    That would make Edward the Mr. Darcy of Twilight. Check the similarities. And where they are similar Edward has great appeal. He is a complete gentleman (rare these days-points for Ed). He loves Bella passionately and desperately (I have yet to meet a woman who does not want to be loved passionately-more points). He's super-fast and super-strong, and he has an Aston Martin Vanquish (jackpot :-D )

    Ok problems with Edward -1. He is very self-conscious (chill out dude!) 2. He overreacts, sometimes in small ways sometimes in big ways (New Moon anyone?)

    Verdict on Edward - Lots of very good qualities, anyone who is modelled after Mr. D can't be bad in my book, but needs to CHILL OUT. He's not a perfect character. And I think his flaws would eventually wear on a girl despite his immacualte good looks.

    Jacob -
    One word - Loyal to the death, Ok so thats 4 words. If you're with Jake you know you can count on him no matter what. For anything. If anyone has read my previous comments on the subject you will know that I was very suspicious of Jake until I realized that his motives were all good in Breaking Dawn, now looking back over the series I see how loyal and giving he is. He drags Bella out of her pit of despair in NM and it's not his fault that he is head over heels for her and wants her back for the rest of the series. He stands beside the Vamps in Eclipse and Breaking Dawn even though he hates them as a species, but you'll notice he is always there in Bella's time of need - no matter how much pain he's put through in the process.

    Problems for Jake: Youth. Really that's his big flaw. Simple inexperience. He's never had a relationship before and doesn't know how to best fight for Bella when Edward comes back. Yes, the forced kiss was a bad idea (and if I were Charlie I'd probably have thrown him bodily from the house if he did that to my daughter no matter how much I liked him). Yes, feeding Bella's urge for death-stunts (which he didn't know was to bring Edward's voice I might add) was a bad idea, but that one I put on Bella, Jake was in it for the fun of it because that IS part of his experience. He didn't know Bella was TRYING to get hurt.

    But really, cut him some slack. Furthermore with the Vamps, everything in his experience and instruction on the subject is - Vamps are evil and must die. But despite that he still warms up to them, showing that prejudice has not jaded him completely. (Note reactions to Carlisle and Alice in BD)

    Ok one more compliment for Jake before I stop this extraordinarily long post.

    He defies Sam and becomes an Alpha. Now I'm not downing Sam here but listen. It takes great courage to stand up to one's enemies. It takes even greater courage to stand up to one's friends. Jake proved then that he would stand up for what he believed was right, no matter how much it repulsed him, no matter how much his pack brothers (and sister) pressured him otherwise, and no matter how much his ALPHA commanded him. And that is an admirable quality if I've ever seen it.
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    um....*points up at Darcy's comment*...what he said :)

    Meyer has pretty much meshed Pride and prejudice, Romeo and Juliet, and wuthering Heights in to an updated series :) That's why i love the books i think, despite the fact Meyer is just starting out and her writing style may not be the best at times.

    Edward is Mr Darcy updated, which i love. But he's also much more controlling and uptight....which as you say....despite his good looks, would have you planting a foot on his backside and sending his vamp butt out the door in no time at all .

    Jake sums up everthing i love about men in general, loyal but fun and not adverse to some risk taking. The general take on Jacob would probably have been much better if we were allowed into his head earlier in the series.

    *sends up silent prayer for New moon and eclipse from jakes POV *

    Nice Dumbledore reference by the way LOL
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    *hops out from the shadows*

    NICKY!!!! "Good Afternoon, Good Evening, and Good Night!" (pst..name the movie)

    How the hale are ya sister??

    *hugs nic*

    *goes back up to read Darcy's post.*
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *slides out of bushes*
    Oh, I see now. We get lost in the black space together, make it out alive, and now I'm a nobody, huh?
    *hurls book at Scarlet and scowls*
    So, are you going to give your opinion on why you like who, or is it all a lust thing?

    *folds hands, wating*
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    Good Morning to you Mrs. Grouchy! lol

    What do you mean "now I'm a nobody, huh?"?

    *gives her a knowing glare*

    And check my post below. I was already WAY ahead of you!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    I'm sorry 4tW is currently unavailable right now.

    She is busy consulting her boss regarding a quick and easy method of dispatching betrayers and ungrateful secret non-blood sisters.

    If you have something important to say, (anyone whose name is not Scarlet)

    please leave your name, phone number, and a complementary sentence at the beep.

    Thank YOu and enjoy your day.



    BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPP!!
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    LOL You can be such a twit, you know that?

    WAIT!

    *looks back at wolfy's post*

    Did you just call me your SISTER!

    *grins*
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Um. it was a slip of the tongue.

    *averts eyes uncomfortably*

    LOL
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    *jumps around in cicles*

    I KNEW IT!! HA HA! I KNEW it!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *walks off, black smoke pouring from ears*
    grrrrrrrrrrwllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    *blows kisses to wolfy*
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    Hi Scarlet :)

    Oh i love Jim Carrey :) He's fab :) This is the third time you've quoted him to me though....do you have a little Jim fettish yourself :) Does that mean i can get away with quoting Ace Ventura on here lol :)

    *hugs*
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    Hmmm...I don't know...Honestly...I think he has the potential to be an OUSTANDING actor. Have you seen Simon Birch?

    Honey, you KNOW you can quote ANY good movie to me!

    lol
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    Have you seen Eternal Sunshine!? He is not playing his usual hysterical characters but the movie is great! hahah
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    I would prefer he didn't play his "hysterical" characters most of the time (Grinch, puke).

    He's brilliant in his more dramatic roles...very typical of a true comedic genius.

    I haven't seen ES yet. I'll have to put it in my que.
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    Yes! See it! I like it! Its a crazy movie!

    You didn't like the, the, the GRINCH? I thought it was cute.

    LOL
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    ahhh..no...He irritated the ever-lovin' snot out of me in that movie.

    I'm waiting for him to do a down and dirty, gritty drama. I really think he would be spectacular!
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    You think so??? It would be interesting to watch :)
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    No doubt! I think his career could possibly follow the path of Robin
    Williams'.
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    I think he'd be awesome too :)

    I've not seen ES yet!! Kept meaning to :(

    I think it's time he did a really gritty angsty role :)
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    There are several other comedians I'd like to see take on a more serious
    role.

    I'm not normallly a big Jack Black fan, but I really enjoyed him in "The
    Holiday" of course, acting opposite my favorite actress didn't hurt at all.
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    Which actress Kate or Cam??

    I love Jack Black :) He was amazing in the holiday :) I do have a little crush on him i gotta confess :)

    I think it works well for comedians to cross over and do serious or dark stuff :) Their comedy comes from a dark place :)

    Robin Williams manages it, Denis Leary is all into his drama now....and i would love to have seen Bill Hicks do it...*sigh*
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    Thanks, another series I'm crazy about.
    I realize that I watch entirely too many movies and have a habit of speaking
    in book/movie quotes. As always I offer hi-5's to anyone who can catch
    them.

    *hi-5*


    And I'm in complete agreement on the Jake POV stories. I know it would
    never happen but I would love to see the whole set in Jake's and Edward's
    POV. Hmmm....and maybe Alice's too. That would be fun, but I imagine
    somewhat "Sound and the Fury"ish with all the premonitions. : )
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    I have a serious Potter addiction, i have done the whole buying the book at midnight routine :)

    Oh i should catch some quotes at least :) I watch too many movies myself ;)

    If you quote TV though i'll struggle, i don't watch any TV, other than the odd series i buy from Amazon lol

    I would love the jake set :) I'm hoping for some back stories too ;) Carlisle for one, and Jasper and Alice :) I'll read as many POV and back stories as she can write :) Bring them on SM :)
  • fantasyfan · 5 months ago
    I love Harry Potter and I'd really like to see Twilight back stories too. Wish that she'd finish Midnight Sun.
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    *points to fantasyfan user name*

    I'd already put you down for a seat at the Potter/twilight/toilken annual dinner :) lol

    I really want the rest of midnight sun, fan ficiton is only temporary relief :)
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    ALL awesome novels.

    Is it just me or does anyone else want a Volturi and/or Jasper back story novel?
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    ME!!!

    *looks around trying to find comment*

    I said i wanted carlisle, Jasper and Alice back stories, and the volturi would be great!!!
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    OMG! The woman just opened the can-of-fascinating-possible-story-worms. She said she's done with B&E (not sure if I believe it), but I desperately want her to continue in that world and delve into the wonderful characters she's already created!
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    She must!!

    or we'll need to get most awesome fan fic writer we can find to do it for her :)
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    *Begins the search for awesome fanfic writer to feed our need*
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    I would love for the WA author to do it....i just love her style...lots of detail and atmosphere:)

    Of course the swearing might have to go lol
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    She WOULD be awesome! Who is she? Does anyone know anything about her?
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    No i don't know if anyone knows her identity...she goes on about other projects so she must be a writer in her real life :)

    And she's obviously not a beginner lol

    I love her style :)
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    OH me too! WA is my fav. fanfic yet. I'm not in to a lot of them...I guess
    I'm just really picky.
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    Yeah :) I really don't like most of them....and WA is the only one i love :)

    I need really good writing, i liked a couple of others but that was about it :)
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    It has to have a good story and strong characters. Just because it's smutt
    doesn't mean it's good.

    *gasps wide-eyed*

    Did I just say that outloud?
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    *looking around*

    You did but no one heard :) I do like the D & S smutty one....the characters just feel pretty real to me...

    But nope...i found my poision in WA...i like my smutt served with story and humour and characters i love lol
  • agava [polish steaming kettle] · 5 months ago
    LoL

    I am still reading (short break now) and I don't know if anything can be better than that!!!!
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    I'll save you the disappointment....the others are not as good...although there are a couple of ones worth reading :)

    Hurry and and finish it already lol
  • rpattz_dreamer(TeamRobsBeanie) · 5 months ago
    Yes prequels would be a good idea I would like back stories on Carlisle and Jasper in particular- and Carlisle's could have the Volturi in it and explain his relationship with them.

    I think I might start a petition to send to Stephenie
  • Sparks_TeamPellan · 5 months ago
    Oooh....prequels! I never thought of that! Thats a great idea!
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    If she would get off her butt and do midnight sun i'd take it as a positive sign..then we could push her fpr more...where oh where is midnight sun......

    *curls into ball and sucks thumb*
  • rpattz_dreamer(TeamRobsBeanie) · 5 months ago
    Yes we need midnight sun finished but I don't think she will ever finish it after the leak, we might have more chance with the prequels as they would be new stories.
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    Midnight sun? Boring!!!! I want a book on Jacob!!!!!!!
  • rpattz_dreamer(TeamRobsBeanie) · 5 months ago
    What about if I also petition for a book set after BD focussing on Jake and Renesmee would that pique your interest Pimsy?
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    I want all the books from Jakes POV

    Prequels and POV for Alice and Jasper Edward and Carlisle and the volturi.

    In a word Steph - Get up and at em!!! lol
  • rpattz_dreamer(TeamRobsBeanie) · 5 months ago
    Yes abandon any other project you may have and write Stephenie write!

    *note to Stephenie everything else must be put on hold until you complete another book in th Twilight series*
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    Maybe another writer will wise up and write the prequels. Look at all the Star Wars fiction. It my be interesting to get another writer's spin on the story.
  • rpattz_dreamer(TeamRobsBeanie) · 5 months ago
    I don't think Stephenie would let anyone else use her characters to write more books in the series as she would have no control over the way her characters were written.

    But an interesting idea I have never read any of the star wars books but I love the films!
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    I haven't really read them either, but I know they're out there.

    You're probably right, but you never know. She may get so tired of the series consuming her life (from the outside anyway) that she may eventually be willing to relinquish the series to someone else.
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    J.E.S.U.S!!
    This is almost as bad as that other Grey-Face who left a similar chapter like this!!!!
    But seeing as this was written by someone smart like you, it'll probably make sense...let me go get a dictionary first, my eyes are already burning.
    LMAO!
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    LOL

    It was worth the read :)

    I like to hear a guys opinion :) I'm still kind of lost around so many women.....i'm not used to it LOL
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    I do tend to write novels, don't I

    I hope you enjoy it.
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    Uhh... I read the Edward section and that was VERY GOOD. I think you gave too many compliments to Jacob though, he wasnt THAT much of a person....was he??
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    I'm a little confused as to what you mean by "not that much of a person" Did you find him not relatable as a character? Or lacking in humanity? Or am I mis-reading your comment?
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    Oh Gaaaawwd no!! i hate debates!!!!! i have a chronic fear of them!
    All i'm trying to say is that i am a Slightly Biased Team Edward girl and I simply feel that Jacob was a little too manipulative in Eclipse and i know he was in love with Bella, but really?? couldnt he have found a mature way to deal with it? And didnt Jacob also threaten to 'kill himself' just because....uh...hold it right there!
    *goes in search of Eclipse*
    This might take a while...sorry...

    LOL
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    Ok SpankMe.

    *looks around to make sure no ones listening*

    *whispers*

    Now, you KNOW I love Edward, but honestly, Jake is the best character in the book. He made NM and BD what they are.

    He completely captures the spirit of teenage innocence and selflessness that is often overshadowed by insecurity masked by ego.
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    *jumps from behind*
    I heard that!!!!!!!! hahaha!

    You know you wanna be a wolfgirl! Admit it!

    Say it! Say it! Out loud

    LOL!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *SCREAMS PIMSY!!!!!! * I have a new mantra for us from Harry Potta (speaks in British accent)
    *grins*
    "I solemnly swear we are up to no good"
    eyes shining. It's PERFECT for us, yes???
    *runs around room with PIMS stopping to dance. She wants to be a wolf-girl. She wants to be a wolf-girl. LOL LOL *
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    LOL!

    I love it!

    *right hand on chest*

    I solemnly swear we are up to no good!



    haha! Yayy! *running in circles*
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *follows Pimsy, spinning around happily*

    Uh-Oh.. gotta run... back in 2ish hrs. Slap Darcy for me, please and tell him that I'm going to go introduce Georgiana to this really handsome young guy I just met who's smoking in the corner and checking out her butt. He'll love it.

    *hugs*

    lol
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    *hugs*

    Okay I'll tell him that! Have fun!!!!! Don't forget my Rob_I_love_you_we_were_meant_to_be_together plan!!!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *double-take*

    Umm.. did I miss something?
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    *facepalm*

    Haven't you been paying attention? Just hug Rob and tell him you two should get married! hahah He has low self-esteem, he needs some TLC!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    OH!! *eyes brighten* will when I get back. LOL
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    I heard that!
    Grrrrr....
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *snicker*

    Are you growling Mr. Darcy?

    Watch yourself, hate to see you lose your temper. *lips twitch*

    And don't worry about Georgiana. She's doing great. I left her alone with the guy in a nice secluded area so they could have a little chat and just told her if she decides she wants to do something improper, just make sure it doesn't get out, so it can't ruin her reputation.

    I'm sure she'll be fine. I told her that you trusted her judgement completely and he was so nice to her.. I'm sure she'll be fine. I mean, the grass was very slightly wet, so he offered to let her sit on his lap. Was that gentlemanly, or what?!!

    lol
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    Gah, I'm so behind since the whole website crashing fiasco.

    I'm headed off now, but have a good weekend.






    ***And I had that blackguard shipped off to Australia!!!!

    : )
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    just since the website fiasco?

    Really.. I thought you've been slightly behind for days.. but hey, use whatever excuse you need to to make yourself feel better.



    And on that happy note.. G'night.



    LOL
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Date: July 4th 2009



    *steward arrives outside Mr. Darcy's office with Hallmark card*

    *Mr. D opens card*



    MY Deepest Sympathies in your time of LOSS....

    *pictures of colonists cheering and dancing and laughing and redcoats depressed and sailing back to Britian*



    My thoughts are with you at this sad time. (*thinks about it and laughs uproariously*)



    Respectfully yours,



    4TW..



    ;)
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    Ok, PIMSY... you've been smokin' the peace pipe.

    NO! I do NOT want to be a wolf!

    *smacks pimsy on the back of the head*

    lol
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    Hey! Leave my peace pipe out of this! LOL

    Ouch! What was that for!?

    LEECH-LICKER!
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    You're ruinin' my rep man!

    Stop it!

    lol
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT??!!!!
    *everyone in the post turns their heads*
    oop, sorry!!!
    *whispers*
    Jake is ONE of the best, not THE best!! How can you say that Scarlet??!! HOW??!!!!
    *realises i am shouting again*
    Okay, okay i'm going to be generous here and assume you've been out in the sun too long...

    lol
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    LOL...I didn't SAY he was the sexiest! Because he's NOT, but he is the most interesting personality.

    Breathe, SpankMe, breathe.

    I will still defend Edward's %^#@& awesomness to the hills!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHH!!
    I HEARD THAT and now I"M SO HAPPY!!!!!
    *runs around screaming and laughing and running in circles*
    YAYYAYAYAYYAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYYAYAYAYAYYAYAY
    *dances*
    Go Jake, Go Jake, Go--- uh.. kinda.. teenagers can be remarkably self-absorbed also, but aren't we all at moments. I think Jake had moments of selflessness beyond his 17 years. I mean, would you have put up with Bella for that long? I would have been all, "Go find Edward since he's the one you want and don't come dragging your sorry butt back to LaPush when you wanna be warm.. let him be your sunshine now."
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    Teens CAN be caught up in their little bubble sometimes, but they see the big picture of life better than most adults.

    Who was it that said, "If you are young and not liberal, you have no heart. If you are old and not conservative you have no brain." (I think M. Twain maybe)

    Anyway, my point is that while teens can be self-absorbed they are also usually the first ones to run to someone in need and give them the shirt off their back. Adults hesitate and over-think in those situations WAY too much, thus Edward's responses through out the book.
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *sigh*

    *takes brain out of head and hands it back to nicnix*

    You take the brain today nixy..

    I'm too stupid to argue with Scarlet's comments today and I think this thing is burning out its lightbulb

    *hmmpfh*

    *stares blankly at pretty things in forest as they flit past empty head* Ooh.. a butterfly. Pretty.

    lol
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    You are NOT stupid!

    *clasps hands over mouth*

    I mean...Yes...you ...that IS a pretty butterfly.
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Un-Jake/Edward related question.
    As a guy, did you find Bella's personality/need for protection attractive, or did you find her as whiny and userish as many of us did?

    *looks at Mr. D's avatar* Was that a stupid question?
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    Hmm....

    That depends on what you mean. If you are talking about the need for physical protection, i.e. uncoordinated, fragile. That doesn't bug me. Now this is really going to vary guy to guy. Some guys must have an athletic girl. I'm not one of them.

    If you're talking in the emotional sense. That got exhausting. While reading Eclipse my wife's mantra was "Stupid Bella, Stupid Bella" and I'd have to say I agree.

    Bella has her moments. I know SM took a lot of criticism for making Bella too weak, but I think there are times (saving Edward from suicide for one) that she really comes through. But all in all, I wouldn't want her.
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    I have a message for you...

    *slap on the arm*
    4tw said she will introduce Georgiana to this really handsome young guy she just met who's smoking in the corner and checking out her butt.
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    Pffft! She would.

    Well you can tell her.....

    Wait a minute, I don't want you to scream at me, "I'm not an owl!"

    LOL
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    I really think Bella gets slammed with out further consideration way too much.

    People, thing about it this way. This is a girl who never had much of an opportunity to be a child. Meyer's clearly points to the strength she is to BOTH her parents. I many ways, SHE is their parent.

    Edward gives Bella an opportunity to relinquish that role for the first time in here life. That's a difficult position. For anyone who has had to step out of a similar situation, being vulnerable to someone for the very first time in your life is not an easy task. In those moments, you see your weaknesses for what they truly are, and you convince yourself that if that person sees those weaknesses you've masked, they will despise you as much as you depise yourself. The beauty and honesty of love is that it takes weakness and resolutely strengthens it. And THAT'S what makes this love story great!

    Bella's weak because she has the opportunity to be weak for the first time in her short life.
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Ok, I think you have a valid point, however she also sees how she is hurting other people, recognizes that (Wuthering Heights reference) and does it anyway, only stopping when it gets to the point that it's out of control. I like Bella in the sense that she is kind-hearted, straightforward, and not afraid of "wierd" stuff, but I think there's a difference between being weak and allowing yourself freedom and the ability to be childlike in all its positive aspects, without being childish and selfish.
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    True, but Bella's never had the opportunity to learn where that "line" is. Unfortunately, she learns this hard lesson while other's hearts are in the balance.

    Remember, "Experience is something you get after you need it."

    Lets not forget that Bella DID fight for Jacob where Edward was concerned!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *opens roll of duct tape*

    *breaks off strip and puts over mouth*

    *holds up sign reading "What she said*

    *rolls eyes*
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    Wait a clock tick.

    *whispers*

    did you just agree with me?

    *clears through*

    Are you aware of the mating rituals of the North American Blue Swallowtail butterfly?
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    yes..... tick..tick..tick..

    *stares dreamily*

    No..but I am of the olympic wolves..

    *sigh*

    *keeps staring..butterflies pass* *dragons fly overhead*



    lol
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    *looks around startled*

    How did we end up in the Shire?

    lol
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    I'm magical. How else?

    *rolls eyes*

    Geez, for having half a brain it sure takes you a while to deduce things.
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    I would LOVE to stay and play....I mean FIGHT with you...but I've gotta go!
    DATE NIGHT!!! WOO HOO!

    Have a Goodnight, HATER!!!

    lol
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Ooh, date night??

    *hands wax*

    Don't forget to wax your feet there, honey.



    'Night, loser!!



    lol
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    *stands and claps*

    Now THAT, my friend, is what I call a literary analysis!

    Thank you! Thank you for taking this wonderfully imaginative series with its intricate characters and reading past its words to its heart. There are so many layers to this story that people never want to admit or discuss because it's "Young Adult" fiction (which, don't even get me start on that), but in all honesty, that genre is currently putting out some of the BEST literature than any other. (It's a shame that most people are too narrow-minded to give some of the YA lit. a chance.)

    My mind floods with all the literaty heros and heroines AND life experiences that these characters reflect.

    Bravo, Mr. Darcy, Bravo.
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    Thanks Scarlet!

    I completely agree with you about the YA fiction. And this one especially.
    These are not stock/static characters by any means. I was actually having a
    conversation with my wife about this the other day. How all the characters
    go through major changes through the course of the series.

    What I also love is the world SM creates. It is deep and can stand up to
    criticism and scrutiny, like JK Rowling's wizarding world and JRR Tolkein's
    Middle earth, SM's Twi-world is a place that you can jump in and let your
    imagination swim.
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *swimming in imagination*
    AAHHHHHHHHHHH!! Nazgul
    *imagines hobbits saying, "nice crispy bacon*
    I love middle earth too. It's a shame that it's a fair bit harder for ppl to read than Harry Potter (which I like too)
    *Pimsy and 4TW stand and say, " I solemnly swear I am up to no good" *
    But I liked that one for its noble characters and the sacrifices they made.
    I know it was in the movie rather than the book, but I took a bunch of 8th graders to a packed show on the day it came out and the theatre was totally buzzing with comments, etc. SO Fun.. and when Faramir's father said he wished it was him that had died instead of Boromir, my class went nuts and some actually cursed and loudly gasped and some girls (and myself) started sobbing wretchedly through the whole silent battle scene.
    GAH!!!! *sniffle* I think BD was missing some sacrifices in there somewhere.. The battle-that-almost-happened. *gag me*
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    I love my middle earth and Harry Potter too :)

    Nothing is a good as a book which has a whole world that stands up on it's own, and you can just dissapear into and leave your real life completely behind :)

    You just reminded me of Faramir's father tho...

    *starts shredding paper in anger*

    I though i was over this LOL
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *starts shaking furiously*

    Let's go find him and BURN HIM!!!!!!!!!

    Oh, wait. He's dead.

    And he's fict..fict..fi--*looks at nicnix panicking and in a cold sweat* I can't say it out loud.

    *walks off sobbing uncontrollably*
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    I know!!!! I can't stand it :) I'll carry my hate for him until i die :) lol

    And he not fictional.....not really....not when we're reading LOL
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *gasps in shock*

    You.. you.. you just said the "f" word..



    *approaches nixy with bar of soap*



    They're real I tell you! Real!! REALLL................................
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    Are you trying to Mod me??? Really!!!

    *dodges out of 4TW 's grasp*
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    No, no.. i just meant the *grimaces* not real word. *grabs nixy*
    Oh, no.. out of time. Be back to beat you later.
    *wicked grin*
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    Tolkein and Lewis were the MASTERS. We would have none of this wonderful fiction where it not for them!
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    Here here!

    *raises glass to Scarlet*

    I am enough of a nerd that I read the Silmarillion and the Lay of Luthien too. Still need to get to the Children of Hurin and Book of Lost tales. I just can't get enough of Tolkein, brilliant!

    And Lewis too, I didn't think to mention Narnia, good call.
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    They need to just make a "Complete Works of." for the two of them and make us all happy.

    I know! I remember reading "The Hobbit" for the first time in jr. high and thinking "ehh", and then going back years later and rereading it and thinking, "Man, I was ignorant!"
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    I'd buy that!
    And stick it right next to the leatherbound copies I've already got. Those are sitting next to the paperback ones. : )
    I think between that stuff and the different versions of the Twilight books coming out we could keep those publishers in business without them ever releasing anything new!
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    Odd question here, Do you have a Kendall?
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    Oops. I replied to myself meaning it to go to you. : )
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    Ummm....

    I know a guy named Kendall but I don't think that's what your talking about.

    .....and if that is then the answer is most certainly no! : )

    What's a Kendall?
  • ScarletI *Team Pea Coat!!!* · 5 months ago
    I'm sorry...I wasn't paying attention...I meant Kindle....the wireless reader.
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    Ohhhh, that makes sense.

    No, I don't have one.

    Aren't they set up for blackberries or something like that?

    I'm afraid I still live in the stone age when it comes to a lot of this
    stuff.
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    I read the Silmarillion years and years ago :) But it was a tough book to get into...

    I might try it again though :)
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    It really is. It reads more like a history book or a religious text than a novel for enjoyment.

    But if the commentators on Tolkein are correct, that's more of what he was trying to do there, create a mythology for England that can be lasting like the Greek or Norse tales.

    Well LOTR certainly made it : )
  • TheLionFellIn<3W/Ceci-ROBECI · 5 months ago
    Mike... I love you dude BUT you as Edward? Uh huh... wasn't gonna happen for me! You're the perfect, annoying Mike Newton... Perfect... but at this point, I don't think there's ANYONE better to portray Edward as is my ROBERT EFFING PATTINSON!!! God, I love that man.... anywho back to you... you're awesome and I can't wait to see you barfing and all sick ;-)
  • EternitywithEdward · 5 months ago
    lmao - "can't wait to see you barfing and all sick" I agree about that scene......it was super important and provided some comic relief.
  • TheLionFellIn<3W/Ceci-ROBECI · 5 months ago
    Lol... oh yea... that scene definitely provided some freaken comic relief!! I was all depressed and stuff and here comes Mike w/ all the barfing=priceless
    =)
  • neev · 5 months ago
    lol i totally agree with you!!
  • TheLionFellIn<3W/Ceci-ROBECI · 5 months ago
    ha! we all loved that part in the book, didnt we? ;-)
  • neev · 5 months ago
    we sure did!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *runs up to Ceci with picket sign reading Mike as Edward for BD*
    NO, NO. MIKE for EDWARD.

    LOL LOL LOL
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    *running in circles*
    Did you see it? Did you see it? Did you? Did you?
    I thought about licking his lips, but felt it would be tooo much for proper Mr. Darcy!

    *laughing out loud*
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *laughs and jumps up and down with Pimsy*.. I think we've half killed him today. He can't even talk straight.LOL LOL LOL. And apparently I should be worried tomorrow..although..I'll actually be gone most of the day. *beams happily* You can handle it, though!! LOL
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    *jumping and laughing*
    Uuuu! I wonder what he will do to you tomorrow! Maybe a spanking for you being so mean to him! *laughs at the thought* No, I doubt THAT will ever happen! Still I can't wait!
    *giggles*

    What? You'll be gone all day? *pouts*

    Are you sure it will be safe for Mr. Darcy to be patrolling alone with me? Hmm...I will enjoy it far too much! *sly smile*

    LOL
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Ewww, PIMSy, stop projecting on me.. No it probably isn't safe. I'm going to Central Park..

    *stops*

    OMG! I'm going to CP.. I might see ROB!!!! If I do, I'll take lots and lots and lots of pictures and then say thank you and tell him I like Jake better.

    *thinks a moment*

    That would be rude, though wouldn't it.

    *thinks again*

    But then again, NYC stereotype

    *thinks again*

    but then stereotype is wrong..

    *thin-ok, enough. Brain hurts.*



    Yes, maybe you should make yourself a personal challenge to see if you can avoid sniffing his neck more than once tomorrow. LOL
  • TheLionFellIn<3W/Ceci-ROBECI · 5 months ago
    *gasps*
    *shakes head to keep the anger from errupting*
    *chases 4TW and snatches picket sign*
    *rips it apart and burns the pieces*
    So there... *sticks tongue out like 5 yr old*
    Neener neener... Mike will never replace Rob as Edward... LOL... ay mujer tan atrevida y problematica... LOL

    *shrugs* Eh. I still love ya... lol!!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *grins* Wow, Ceci. Anger issues? I was merely looking out for Rob.. I mean there's all that "action" in BD and since Rob has to have a body double to save his face, we might as well just replace him with Mike and save Rob's face.

    I thought it was a great idea. But..*sighs* oh, well. I see there's no talking reason with you.

    *puts broken sign pieces in garbage and shakes head sadly* And they say wolves are volatile.

    Oh, before you go, Ceci, I just wanted to give you this as a token of our friendship.

    *gives Ceci photoshopped picture of her and Rob's body, replaced with Mike's head, and glittery effects* YOu two look wonderful together. I spent a long time on it. Enjoy.

    *runs off laughing*

    HAHHAHHAHAHHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

    lol
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    OH!!! Good morning, Ceci! Just realized I forgot to translate your little parting line, using my amazing translating abilites. (I've been seriously considering getting a job at the U.N. after I so brilliantly translated the last one)
    OK.. let's see..

    "Mike will never replace Rob as Edward.. LO....Wow! a very tan attractive and problematic.. (situtation?)" Did you forget a last word in there somewhere?
    Yes that WOULD be problematic that Mike will never replace Rob as Edward.. I mean, what if Rob gets seriously hurt on the shredded headboard prop and can't get the splinters out of his beautiful jaw? The only thing you were wrong about, Ceci is that neither of them are very tan.. that's kind of wolf territory..
    But.. you're doing great.. keep working on your Spanish skills and don't drop words at the end of phrases-not so professional. !
    Enjoy your day!!
    *waves and walks off beaming happily*
  • TheLionFellIn<3W/Ceci-ROBECI · 5 months ago
    LMAO umm afternoon for me now!! It's 4 over here... lol!!!
    Oh GOD I was ready to fight and argue with you especially due to the fact that I just got back from 7 hours of jury duty & there was nothing new on NMM and then poof... turns out there were... LOL so I was in a bad mood but YOU *points at 4TW* just made me a tinzy itzy bit happier w/your humor... LMAO!!

    Oh yes mighty wolfie... you have powerful skills in the Spanish department... buahaha... maybe YOU should teach ME how to speak it and translate it... LMAO
    *shakes head at the absurdity of it*
    Yes, I AM a bit tempermental... and yes... I am volatile but not as much as YOU my friend... geez I dont' think anybody could be as volatile as you and your pack girls... LOL!!!
    Tan? Haha... I hope you DO really know what I said but since I know you DONT... haha here it goes... I said that you're a woman that is so problematic and so bold/daring and that despite that.. I still loved ya... LMAO!!
    And how could you have thrown the pieces of your ridiculous sign when I had already ripped them apart and burned the pieces??? LOL... oh thx for the crack up... *sighs* I needed that....

    *hugs 4TW despite her stench and her backing away*
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Hi, CECI!!!!! Como Esta? Yo esoty muy bien, Gracias! Denada. Trabajo. Mucho calor. Salsa verde. Pinata!

    Yayayayayyayayyyayaya. SEEEEE. I AM COMPETENT!!!!!

    *whips out clipboard* If you would like to sign up for some much-needed Spanish lessons. I would be happy to tutor you in the language.

    *hands Ceci pen*

    So glad your day is getting better. And.. And.. I threw the ashes. Obviously!!!

    LOL
  • TheLionFellIn<3W/Ceci-ROBECI · 5 months ago
    ROTFLMAO!!! Oh. My. God. woman... LMAO!! Okay I was good and everything up until I read "Salsa verde" and "pinata" LMAO.. wtf?!? That came out of nowhere... wow you ARE competent... what with all those chips and the salsa verde and the candy from the pinatas... LMAO!!

    *grabs pen while rolling eyes*
    Fine... I guess it won't hurt... to make fun of you... haha!!

    LOL... right.. uh huh... threw the ashes... sure, sure wolfie... sure sure... LOL
  • Sparks_TeamPellan · 5 months ago
    Michael?? As Edward???...............ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!
    Sorry, but it was never gonna happen!!
  • bella425edward4445 · 5 months ago
    omg mike was gunna be edward .........excuse...........*go to the bathroom and pukes.................ewwwww no way that just dosent work and is plain wrong LOL :D
  • Sparks_TeamPellan · 5 months ago
    Lol Yes, somehow I don't think we would be on here worshipping Michael Welch!
    No offense Mike..........!
  • Kaleb -.-.- Shiny New Toy · 5 months ago
    has anyone ever noticed that if mike welch was decked out in all the batman gear he would be the spitting image of the christian bale versions? their mouths are like completely identical..it's crazy lol
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    *jumps from behind*
    Gotcha!

    Michael as Edward? Noo! He is too funny as Mike Newton! "Look at you! YOU ARE ALIVE!" LOL
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    I just imagined Mike as Edward doing "the dance" and just about fell out of my chair laughing.
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    *smiles victoriously*
    You followed me here?
    Very, very nice!

    That dance was kinda sexy, in a dorky kinda way! LOL
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    You expected me to maybe sit around in the Kellan post starring at the wall?

    But alas, the time has come for me to disapparate again.

    Until tomorrow then.

    *tips hat*
  • Sparks_TeamPellan · 5 months ago
    Jeez! careful PIMS! You've left claw marks on my back from making me jump!!

    How the hell do I explain that to my fellow vamps?
    People will talk.....they'll see we've been talking....remember...denial!! lol

    If Michael was Edward then I wouldn't be here right now!
    I would probably have a life instead of spending all day following Pattz round & talking to a werewolf like a lune!! Lol!

    He was fab as Mike Newton.....
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    One, little, two, little, three little vamps! Four, little, five, little, six little tramps! hahahah

    You know you love those claw marks! I saw you showing them off the other day!
  • Sparks_TeamPellan · 5 months ago
    Haha, you nut!

    Okay, I do like them, there like war wounds!
    I might get a few tatoo's too & pump some iron!
    Then I'll look like a real hard case! Lol
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    LMAO!

    Hey! Whats wrong with tattoos?

    War wounds? Pftt! Those are love wounds! hahah

    You have no idea how bad I could hurt you...*arches eyebrow*



    LOL
  • Sparks_TeamPellan · 5 months ago
    Nothing wrong with tats, But I was talking big hardcore ones that would make my mother cry!! Preferably on the face. Ha!

    You can give me love wounds anytime! *wink*
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    *lifts shirt over face*
    LOL Just kidding!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll leave you waiting for my affection...make you yearn for it! Then we you least expect it, I might jump on you again...maybe...someday...I'll see


    hahah
  • Sparks_TeamPellan · 5 months ago
    Lol. Tease.........
  • Brittni · 5 months ago
    He was going to be Edward? Oh gosh, I would have thrown up.
    Mike Newton is a much better fit.
  • _teambellatrix_ · 5 months ago
    and you know who Hardwicke wanted to be Mike? Michael Angarano lolz
  • dracodarling · 5 months ago
    SERIOUSLY!!!

    *pinches self*
    *refrains from saying anything mean about Hardwicke*
  • EternitywithEdward · 5 months ago
    That would have been awesome if Michael Angarano played Mike Newton ----watching Kristen be swept away by Rob...........just like in real life! lmao!!!!
  • dracodarling · 5 months ago
    Didn't think about it in that manner..

    *high fives Eternity*

    Good point ;-)
  • EternitywithEdward · 5 months ago
    *two times - with the high five*

    Rob said in an interview that when Catherine offered him the role, she made him promise not to try anything with Kristen bc Michael Angarano is a good friend of hers. Well Catherine isn't the director anymore - so go for it Rob!
  • dracodarling · 5 months ago
    LOL!!

    Hardwicke sure was an hmm.. interesting director. The commentary alone with her was unique. Loved Rob and Kristen though!!

    And thank goodness for the new director!! :-)

    *hopes they do a Tay/Rob/Kristen commentary for New Moon or Eclipse*
  • EternitywithEdward · 5 months ago
    Oh I know - I watched/listened to the commentary like 2-3 times. I LOVED that. Rob was hilarious when he was making fun of the whole edible art/apple scene and ragging on the peacoat and bouffant hair. I got the 3-disc special edition from Target.........so many awesome extras.
  • marie_C - Team switz · 5 months ago
    uhmm interesting director= she sucked.
    that is what the actors said when they have to comment about her.
  • ♥LoveThemCullenBoys ♥s Edward♥ · 5 months ago
    That would of been more like a reality show for Michael...

    Wow.. torture......

    lol
  • EternitywithEdward · 5 months ago
    lmao! He probably declined the role of Mike Newton for all we know. Catherine probably told him he wasn't hot enough to play Edward!!! And Kristen probably agreed. mwuahhahahah!
  • neev · 5 months ago
    Really? LOL
    How lame..
  • Eclipse · 5 months ago
    wow u serious? lol Twilight wouldn't have been a huge hit if it wasn't for Rob.
  • Nazneen · 5 months ago
    Yes yes yes! I am so looking forward to the Volturi scenes in Italy. Gosh. NEW MOON COME FASTER <3
  • xxthoseeyesxx · 5 months ago
    I Can't Agree More!!!!!!!!!
  • FL95 (JoJo) · 5 months ago
    FIRST! Gosh, I would have rathered that was on the Rob Post! But I'll take it!

    *does the Mike Newton dance*
  • Nazneen · 5 months ago
    How proud. L0LZ
  • TeamTwilightSaga · 5 months ago
    congrats!
    SECOND :D
    or third ?
  • Catherinelluc - Caterina :) · 5 months ago
    YOU'RE ALIIIIVE!!!!

    LMAO
  • FL95 (JoJo) · 5 months ago
    LMAO!! Love that line!

    She paid him ... NO MIND!
  • Sparks_TeamPellan · 5 months ago
    Congrats!! :)
  • RobismyRomeo (RIMR_) · 5 months ago
    YAY FOR FIRST!!!

    "Arizona- how you likin' da rain, girl??"

    LOL

    *joins flpImtree95 in the Mike Newton booty shake*
  • ♥LoveThemCullenBoys ♥s Edward♥ · 5 months ago
    3rd!

    Mike Newton.. Blah!!

    Sorry I read a FF and he was an a$$hole in it... = P

    It's still to fresh in my mind right now..

    LOL!!
  • RealMenGlitter · 5 months ago
    I KNOW! UGHH I had to remind myself he is not that newton but i clearly picture him when im reading.
  • Catherinelluc - Caterina :) · 5 months ago
    7th!
  • 30yearoldtwifan "Team Slade" · 5 months ago
    Oh OH Im so excited "Febuary" for BD maybe!!! Finally !
  • RealMenGlitter · 5 months ago
    I am keeping my fingers crossed! Im getting so worried about it what is the hold up???

    Mike always does great interviews. You can tell he is very passionate about the saga and always has encouraging things to say about it, esp. about Chris which makes me so relieved. He makes me actually like Newton and thats saying something!
  • Kassielovesthecullens · 5 months ago
    I know...I'm so glad somebody is finally talking about it...

    *does happy dance*

    For a while nobody was even mentioning it. they all were talking about 3 movies...at least a few people on the staff are finally talking about BD.
  • OhHowiWishiCouldSing · 5 months ago
    man! #12 again!!! geez.
  • 30yearoldtwifan "Team Slade" · 5 months ago
    No defianly cant see him being Edward, but he fits Newton well, and now I have even more love for him for mentioning BD being filmed maybe in Febuary! :)
  • Don'tDrink&RunWithWoodenStakes · 5 months ago
    He auditioned for Edward? Well that's new to me haha.
    Glad the theatre scene is in. About Italy, that's why I think Chris will do good. That scene must be rich and powerful and I'm sure it will look great because of Chris!

    "Of course we also grilled him about Rob Pattinson, who it turns out helped him tremendously with his music (Mike plays the drums). RPattz—who contributed the song "Never Think" to the Twilight soundtrack and has been known to perform gigs under the alias Spuk Ransom—gave Welch tons of tips and advice on songwriting."

    to shorten the quote.....awww Rob that's nice...and now go an write some yourself....I hope he's doing some songs for Remember me :D
  • RobismyRomeo (RIMR_) · 5 months ago
    SO GLAD he didn't get Edward. He's the perfect Mike Welch!
  • FL95 (JoJo) · 5 months ago
    No offense Mikey, but you would not have been a good Edward. I think Summit did you right by making you Mike.
  • ForTheLove ~Team Jingle Bells · 5 months ago
    Look At You! You're ALIVE!! ...my favorite Mike Newton line. I'm glad they kept the movie date with Mike - that was honestly one of my favorite parts of the book.
  • RobismyRomeo (RIMR_) · 5 months ago
    *squeals*

    Hurry with Volturi pics, Summit!!!
  • dracodarling · 5 months ago
    *squeals with Romeo*

    We need the Volturi - red eyes and all!!

    Please..... pretty please.. just a glimpse to quench our thirst until Nov.

    *stomps foot and pouts*
  • RobismyRomeo (RIMR_) · 5 months ago
    Maybe if we both pout enough our requests will be granted!

    *crosses fingers*
  • OhEdward (The Original) · 5 months ago
    Yes, please and pronto! They are holding out on us. I did see the trailer in the movie theater last week and it was awesome on the big screen.
  • RobismyRomeo (RIMR_) · 5 months ago
    *raises eyebrow*

    really?

    a) what movie did you see last week
    b) how AWESOME was watching the trailer on the big screen???

    :0)
  • OhEdward (The Original) · 5 months ago
    a) Transformers 2 in California.
    b) Unbelievable! When I saw the Summit logo before the music or the shot of the cliffs, I knew it was coming! I got teary on the goodbye and the sound of Jacob phasing was phenomenal! It looks sooooo good!
  • marie_C - Team switz · 5 months ago
    that sucks(again i am not lucky) i watch tranformers and there was no nm trailer. but i have to say i started reading twilight b/c i watched the trailer while i was waiting for the dark knight.
  • RobismyRomeo (RIMR_) · 5 months ago
    *gasps*

    I can't WAIT to see official trailers on the big screen!
  • _teambellatrix_ · 5 months ago
    I like him,he's a great Mike,but him playing Edward? oh no thanks;p
  • cclore ~ Team CW for BD · 5 months ago
    Well that's encouraging about BD!! But Welch as Edward? Not even close!
  • twilightfanatic · 5 months ago
    Now we know there will be a a BD!!! yay!!
    *doing cabbage patch dance*
  • I'malloverthis · 5 months ago
    Did I hear that right Breaking Dawn... February....

    Please Please Please let that be true.
  • RobismyRomeo (RIMR_) · 5 months ago
    Poor, poor Mike Welch posts.

    Everyone's too busy at the Rob posts to pay attention to this one.

    So- I shall contribute to this post as best as I know how- by adding another comment.

    LMAO

    *rushes back over to Bloodied Rob post*
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *huge huge hug* You are the nicest person ever EVER. Look at you giving Mike Newton love, even for sympathy!!!
    LOL
    *gives little blue ribbon with smiling bee sticker on it that says, "Way to BEE KIND!"
    LOL
  • RobismyRomeo (RIMR_) · 5 months ago
    LOL- I try to help out when I can! Even if it is a sympathetic "here ya go, Mike Newton" post!

    *gushes*

    a blue ribbon for MOI? *beams* you can never 'bee too' friendly.

    LMAO
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *grins at RISMR* You're awesome, RISMR. BEE YOURSELF!! LOL
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    *singing voice*
    Morning!!
    This post seems nice and small...Is it too early to turn into my alter-ego PIMSY? Of course not!

    *running in circles*
    Is it raining? Is it? Are you going to CP?
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Only cloudy, here, PIMS!!! I THINK WE"LL Go as VAmps will be away.. And speaking of vamps, and subsequently wolves. *LOOK SCARLET.. I JUST USED A BIG WORD!!!!*

    Why are you team Jacob other than the obvious (your hormones)

    SpankME was asking.. did you not see it?

    *splashes happily in puddles with PIMS*
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    Was that a joke? Am I supposed to answer that? LOL

    Give me one reason NOT to be team Jake!

    Hm, looks like you will be able to put my plan in action! Will you attack Rob like I asked you to? Did you make your hair extra curly?

    LOL
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    Hmmm, thats not exactly a smart answer now is it PIMSY??!! I see youve returned to your former Slave-driver/wolf friend...when will you learn, my dear??

    AND WHATS THIS ABOUT ATTACKING ROB??!!! YOU KEEP YOUR DIRTY PAWS ON YOURSELF MADAME!!!!!!!!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    I have Rachelle Lafevre hair, PIms.. it's not curly, but it's medusa-like, just not red.. I frequently have to contain it from choking and grabbing unsuspecting passersby.



    NO, seriously. Give me a specific, non-lustful reason you are team Jake. I know you can do it.. search deep inside yourself.



    And if Mr. Darcy would show up, *looks at watch* we can get a guy's perspective on that also, and I'm quite sure it wouldn't be lust-induced.



    Oh well. Probably scared him off yesterday.



    Did you see SpankMe's "Team Jacob are love-haters" comment? I'm wating on nixy for her opinion.
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    *throws hands in the air*

    I'm LOST!!!

    Where are these convos starting?

    I keep hearing my name but I can't find it, gah!

    *calm's self*

    Ok I feel better.

    I'm going to put a guy's perspective on Jake and Edward as a new comment down at the bottom so there's plenty of space : ) This might get fun.
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *rolls eyes* Gad, Man. You're lost this early in the morning and you're supposed to be having the competetive edge today.



    I fear for you, really. I'll find your comment below.



    *pathetic, pathetic*



    LOL
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    *jumps from behind*
    *wet kiss on the cheek*

    Morning Mr. Darcy!
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    And good morning to you PIMSY. Just got done with the longest post of my
    career
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    I can't wait to read that ;)

    My husband and i have running battles...he's Team Edward and I'm more of a Jake girl :)

    *looks down at bottom of post in anticipation*
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    Your team Jake????? I thought you were Team Edward! Your hubby read Twilight? Where are these men and where can I find one!?

    LOL
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    Yeah i have a twilighter hubby lol :) He's team Edward tho *scowls*

    He reads his fan fiction too :)

    To be fair the books were given to me by a guy as well :) He loved them. And almost all my friends are guys, most of them have read it :)

    They probably don't bring it up when they go on guys night out though i would imagine :) LOL
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    *wipes sweat from brow*

    Whew, that was a doozy. Enjoy
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    Right o!!!!

    I'm there :)
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    In case you have not yet written your replies, I added new post to start topic... couldn't find yours. (imagine that)

    How Pemberly has not fallen into complete disarray I don't know. It must be your cousin.. you know the one who takes better care of his sister and make your tea look like colored water?

    *smirk*
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    Just posted it. That took awhile.

    *plugs ears and sings*
    I'm not listening I'm not listening I'm not listening I'm not listening

    LOL
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Real mature, there Darcy. *rolls eyes*

    I can see I'm going to have to watch out for your stunning intellect and steel defenses this morning.

    ;( lol
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    He is in Darcy mode this morning and I dont know why I just came here when I have a load of crap on my desk! Argh!!!! hahahah
    Thank goodness tomorrow is a holiday!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Yes, I see that. No worries. I'll catch you when I can. LOL
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    LMAO!
    *shuts eyes*
    Searching deep inside me...deep....deep...inside me...*blushing*
    *opens eyes*
    Thats not working! LOL

    I like Jake cuz his personality is very similar to mine! He is playful, horny, and he stands up for what he believes in! A man who knows how to joke around is a BIG plus for me! Edward was somewhat boring, yet charming. I didnt like how Edward never respected Bella's wishes and always did what he thought was right.

    I didnt want Jake to end up with Bella! Ed can have her! I wanted Jake to end up with me :)
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    OH, I see. Well, we are in almost complete agreement. I didn't want Jake to end up with Bella either, however I was thinking of him ending up with someone that... wasn't you..

    *blush, averts eyes*

    And he isn't um.. hornier, than any other average 17 -25 year old, so that's not a valid similarity. Any boy that age would have the same hormonal level that you do now.

    LOL
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    Well then I must be a hormonal teenage boy! hahaha

    Yes, but the horniness is not what matters. Its his desire for Bella! How much he fights for her! I love that! Some girls find it annoying, but maybe I don't because Jake is the type of guy I would want running after me :)
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Gotcha.. Um.. Mr. D is trying to post his male perspective as a new comment somewhere on here so we can invite other ppl to give opinion, but I can't find it..
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    He said at the bottom. I have a feeling he is writing a book! hahaha
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Maybe I'll start new one in meantime, just in case he had something like, you know.. a job to do.. *rolls eyes* Work! I tell you.
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    I got your message over there :)

    *pointing over at yonder post*

    Right let me catch up :)

    ok ok...in agreement on the whole thing so far..i like a fun laid back guy....I didn't think Bella deserved him...she was a pain in the butt :)

    Edward and Bella were well suited, they both Annoyed me at least 60% of the tiem LOL
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    *pointing over to the post that will be forever know as the post that shall not be named*

    I got your comment and ran over here....

    Right with you on the Jake opinion :) Jake is my kind of chilled out guys guy :) Sense of humour is the most imporant thing, and Edward doesn't have one to speak of :) He's too uptight LOL

    Team Jake
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    I have Rachelle Lafevre hair too!! Yayyyy!
    *does happy dance*
    But mine is reddish brown, like Bella's!
    LOL
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *smack*

    *sigh* I can't win.. I always have the hair color nobody I like wants.. I TRIED to dye mine red once and it turned peach..

    I hate my life..

    lol
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!
    Peach....??!!!! PFFFFHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!

    LMAO!!
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *I'm not speaking to you now*

    LOL

    *writes quick note*

    Go see new post on M. D's guy point of view about Edward and Jake at top of this page (new comments) and tell me if you agree/disagree, then I might speak to you again.. Impress me. I'm high maintenance. And a present would be nice also. And I might hit you as well... we'll see how much it takes.

    *stomps off*

    LOL
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    *4tw hands over note and storms off*

    pfffhhh.....hehe

    *ROTFLMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!*...she'll come back!!

    *finds Mr_Darcy's comment- F*CKING HELL!!!

    *a long while later, still no 4tw*

    4TW I'M SORRY!!!!!!!!!! I DIDNT MEAN TO LAUGH AT YOUR PEACH *giggle* HAIR!!!! I LIKE PEACH!! *Hysterical giggling* Peach is very...feminine...pfffffhahahaahahaha!!!!!

    *collapses on floor laughing*



    LOL :D
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *WHOMP!!!!*

    *WhOMP, WHACK, THUD, BIFF*



    *glares as Spank Me sits dazed under pile of books*



    Never insult me when I've just come home from the library.

    *walks off muttering. Bonehead*



    lol
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    *blacks out*





    *wakes up*

    What the hell....???!!!!

    *random image of peach comes to mind*

    ROTFLMFAO!!

    *Clutches head* OOOWWWWWW, HEADACHE!!!!! OW-OW-OW!!!



    4TW I'm very sorry...i didnt mean to take the piss out of you. You know i love you really and i hurt the people i love (we have so much in common!!!) so please will you forgive me??

    *puts on puppy eyes*

    Pweeeeaaaaase???!!! I Stole some of FL95's cookies for you!!! And i have...DONUTS!!! EVRYONE loves donuts!



    :(
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *turns back on SpankMe and sends evil glare over shoulder*

    sing-song voice.

    I'm sorry, 4TW is currenty unavailable.

    She is at the store, buying peaches to throw at SpankMe before shredding her to pieces and baking her in a peach pie and then feeding to the wolves.

    If you would like to leave a message, please leave your name, phone number,

    bank account statement, phone number of 3 hot wolves, gift card to a shopping Center of your choice, and a commentary in 300 words or less on why you love 4TW even though she is highmaintenance and volatile.. after the BEEP



    BEEEEEEEEEEEEEPPPP



    lol
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    Edward DOES give Bella a choice SO MANY DAMN TIMES!!!!! But she's too stupid too see sense!!!!
    *scrolls up and down*
    Damn, is Michael Welch really that unpopular?? Not even 100 comments. LMAO HAHAHAHAHAHA Poor guy.
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    So many times? Great, examples, please???

    And I liked Mike in the movie. If I had seen Jake, he would have completely vanished from my mind.. BUT if I hadn't I might have dated him if I hadn't read his thoughts-through-Edward from Midnight sun.



    *runs up and puts IheartMIKE sticker on bicycle* There. I'll show some love. And then if Jake comes by, I'll just quickly slap a wolf sticker over it.



    *SLAP* now shut up and be nice. Oops.I wan't supposed to hit you during this convo, was I . *cringes* Sorry, it.. it just slipped.



    ):
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    Why did you change your avatar? I like the other one, where he looks like he is about to tackle me!
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    LMAO I'm a really indecisve person. i like to go from one thing to another and back and so on....its only a matter of time before i think of better name for myself...
    *starts thinking*
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    No! I love your name! Look at mine! Can you spell LOSER?

    It's ok! Some days I want Jake, others Quil! Its fun to change! LOL
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    Damn right, Who doesnt like a bit of mix'n'match????!!!
    *High five!!*

    Have you seen the Monstrsity that Mr Darcy has cared to leave us at the bottom of this post?? You should join in the argument...you can be very intellectual when you want to be PIMSY.

    :D
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    HAHAHAH!!!!!

    Was that supposed to be a joke? Me intellectual? LOL
  • SpankMe_MrsP >TEAM ISLE ESME< · 5 months ago
    Now now PIMSY dont put yourself down like that, its really not ladylike :D

    I'm starting to see the effects that 4TW has on you...Hmmm...

    *starts thinking*
    I KNOW!!!! YOU NEED A CHANGE OF SCENE!!! Come and see how us Vamp Girls like to roll!!

    *drags PIMSY by shirt*

    *Hmm, i'm getting a feeling of deja vu here*
  • emma ellfors · 5 months ago
    i read a interview where welsh compered mikes affection for bella to how edward is to bella i mean thats just wrong those are two completely different things
  • ferni [abc...] 8) · 5 months ago
    WOW um nooo
    lol
    Robbie=Edward Cullen
    Michael=Mike
    that's how it is
    hehe
  • Betti, the addicted · 5 months ago
    The Mystery of songwriting/Robert Pattinson

    http://bettimusictwilight.blogspot.com/2009/06/...
  • cutesweetiezzz · 5 months ago
    Awwww, it's so cute and sweet of Rob to help Michael with his song writing. Rob is such a great guy and he doesn't even know it.
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Poor Mike! ANYONE TEAM HUMAN??
    I love Eric's lines in movie. but he wasn't that funny in the book. Ok.

    So.. *stands on box* ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SPECIFICS on why they are TEAM JAKE, EDWARD, VOLTURI, OR MIKE. IN A FRIENDLY-NON-KILLING-EACH OTHER TYPE WAY?

    I think Jake is more expressive, full of life, and interesting in his volatility!!
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    LOL

    i wonder what all this really says about us :)

    Team Mike would be a sign i imagine that someone doesn't feel their own worth and consequently is not aiming very high :) lol
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    OUCH!!! That cold!

    *covers Mike's ears* Don't listen. Hey, is it his fault that he's human.

    *Mike shakes fist at the sky and screams. "I DIDN"T ASK TO BE NORMAL! I WANT TO BE A MUTANT, DAMMIT!!*

    Lol
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    Look up there, nicnix.. a NEW FANFIC.. no .. no wait.. just a commentary. LOL
    *going to go read it*

    SOOOO. YOU Still haven't said your FAVE character and why??? Only alluded to it.

    *taps foot, waiting*
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    It was a long comment but a good read :) LOL

    Um fav character is split 3 ways Alice/Seth/Jake :)

    But this was a Edward vs Jake theme so i have to go with Jake :)

    He is loyal, fun, laid back, likes a bit of risk :) Would sit round a camp fire with you drinking beer and telling jokes...

    I can't see Edward doing that....and he's too controlling....i can't have that in a man, i'm always top dog lol
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    No, nixy, it was not an Edward/Jake discussion, it was a who do you like discussion, and that's no problem.

    I Loved Seth for his happy-go-luckiness and I also respect the fact that he busted tail doing double-shifts etc. Gotta respect a boy/man/wolf with a good work ethic

    I totally agree with you on the Edward being too controlling..he wasn't as blatantly obvious as Jake, but I don't appreciate being patronized and the fact that he was always arranging "babysitting" for Bella behind her back would NOT have been funny to me. As I told SpankMe, earlier, if Edward would have come back after pulling that one, I wouldn't have gotten within 5 feet of my lip space.

    lol
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    LOL

    Yes i would have sent him packing too :) Controlling men are a big no no for me :)

    And that ice cold skin thing would have gotten old after about a week......or it would be a romance limited to the height of summer at least :) lol

    Edward is
    Cold (and that includes his feet yikes)
    Bossy
    A know it all
    Arrogant and manipulative

    I don't care if he's hot, i'm heading for La push LMAO
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *grabs nicnix's hand and runs to LaPush with her*

    *gossips along way*



    But come on now, just between you and me, you're not just more than a LITTLE curious about the um.. feather and headboard-breaking experience.. as a one-time thing?



    lol
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    No LOL :)

    He'd be icey cold and too carefull in case he killed me...

    *looks at 4TW with raised eyebrow*

    You know that carefull and gentle is not my thing right? :) LMAO

    Are you curious??? *eyes wide*
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *blush* No comment.



    lol
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    Ok.....that's yes :)

    But there are ways to test that out and see what it's like without stepping foot outside your house LMOA

    Refrigerated goods *wink wink*
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *confused*

    refridgerated goods break headboards and rip pillows?

    hmm..*sits thinking in sunbeam and tries to figure it out*

    *sees butterflies go past*
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    Look we all know it wasn't the feathers you were after!!!

    You wanted to try the ice cold Cullen popsicle LOL
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *scrambles back a couple hundred feet, claws out defensively, eyes wide*

    No way, nixy, you have totally misread me.. I prefer things that run a little on the warm side, and I'm shoulders/chest/eyes kind of girl.. other than the fact that you kinda need the other stuff to *blush* God..,it's sort of inconsequential.

    I was merely referring to the um..

    *blushes and dies a thousand times* intensity of the experience.

    Got me?

    *blushes and walks off in shame*
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    *Shouts* Hey 4TW...

    Come back you dropped something..

    *throws chilled banana after 4TW*
  • 4thewolf · 5 months ago
    *blush, blush, dies slowly*

    I AM SO KILLING YOU FOR THIS LATER!!!

    *flings banana at nicnix*

    AND I WANT SHOULDERS, DANG IT! AND PRETTY EYES!

    AND WARMTH....

    *walks off kicking rocks and praying a hole opens up and swallows this little convo*

    *mutters.. bananas.. *shudder* eeecch*
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    Nicnix, give me the names and addresses of all your male friends who read Twilight and that are not homosexual, please!

    *hands paper and pencil to Nicnix*
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    Rememer 37% of the people on here are guys, but to chicken to say it... lets put a call out!!!

    ANY TWI-GUYS???? RAISE YOUR HANDS PLEASE!!!
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    Yeah Will published in one day :)

    37% of the users list themselves as male when they register.....i guess the actual figure could be higher..

    *hmm thinks about this while stroking stubble*

    LMAO - kidding i only wish i was a guy :)
  • Patience Isn't My Specialty · 5 months ago
    SpankMe! Okay, so I think you and me are out of the debate!
    Lets have a little adventure!!! What shall we do? *tapping index finger on lips*

    *SpankMe pulls on PIMSY's shirt*
    Could you please tell me where the hell you are taking me?? LOL
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    No sorry i'm not a guy *sigh*

    You need to get yourself on facebook and you'll see i'm all chick :)

    I wish i was a guy tho, i like guy type stuff ;) Twilight is bringing out my inner girl....but she's putting up a fight LOL

    Just make the men in your life read Twilight :) I bribed my hubby to do it...then he was hooked *evil chuckle*
  • fantasyfan · 5 months ago
    Hey nicnixs - I'd like to respond to your feelings about whats happened on the site. I'm a relative newbie and when I joined I really enjoyed it and thought that it was fun but it was hard getting anyone to acknowledge me. 4tw really is the only one who ever seems to see my posts. I've thought about quitting too but I'm addicted . Still, lately I've just been shutting off my computer because you can't get a word in edgewise and if you do nobody notices. I think 2 things would help. First when someone logs on say hi, even if you don't have anything else to say to them. Second, add your comments at the bottom of the post and address them to whoever they're meant for. That way the rest of us can be included. And if you have something private to say to someone then get their email address or Twitter them. I don't suppose any of this will happen but that's my 2 cents.
  • NICNIXS :) · 5 months ago
    Hey :)

    I didn't get a email alert about this message so sorry i didn't see it right away...real life shouted on me for a min :)

    The difficulty on the site is you can't keep track of who's logged on and who's gone off, Sometimes if you put a comment at the bottom of page it wont always get seen by the right person. Like me not seeing this one :)

    Although i get around this sometimes by writing my comment at the bottom and then going up the post and replying to someone....saying look down there i left you a comment :)

    If you want to get people to definately notice and reply it's probably better to comment back to something that thay have said as they'll get an alert....or get in early when there are only a few comments :) Or yeah...email :)

    nics x
  • Mr_Darcy · 5 months ago
    If you'll pardon me for being late on the uptake I would like say hello.

    I've been operating pretty much exclusively through email notifications, and I've seen the problems that can cause.

    If ever you wish to comment or converse with me please feel free to reply to any of my comments regardless of how far up or down the thread it may be, and I will be certain to give your thoughts due attention. Though I do have the tendency to be away for several hours at a time so if it's an older post your replying to please do not be offended if it takes me a little while to get back to you.

    *tips hat cordially*
  • fantasyfan · 5 months ago
    Thank you Mr. Darcy, it's very nice of you to take the time to greet me.
    It's very disheartening to try to join the conversation and to be ignored.
    Even just an acknowledgement of someones presence is appreciated.
  • fantasyfan · 5 months ago
    Thank you for responding nicnix. At least you noticed me.
  • fantasyfan · 5 months ago
    Thank you pimsy.
  • Team BritishInvasion&Emotional · 5 months ago
    I agree Chris really is a great director if all goes well HE should be the one to direct Breaking Dawn right?